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From Blueprints to Big Screens: Dale Harris's Filmmaking Odyssey independent Film "Allies"

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What drives someone to completely shift gears from a stable career in architecture to the uncertain world of filmmaking? In this riveting episode of Spit to the Beat Podcast, we sit down with filmmaker Dale Harris to uncover the motivations behind his radical career change. Dale's journey is nothing short of inspiring as he talks about the creative and practical challenges he faced, and how his architectural background became an unexpected asset in his new career. He opens up about his latest project, "Allies," and the sheer determination required to make his filmmaking dreams a reality.

We also dive into the strategic world of crowdfunding and social media engagement with a focus on the upcoming Kickstarter campaign for the Allies web series. Set against the vibrant backdrop of Memphis, Tennessee, this campaign aims to rally support from a thousand open-minded backers. Dale shares his insights on the importance of a strong online presence, especially highlighting the excitement when Tina Knowles followed their account. This segment underscores how the pandemic pushed the project to build an online following, which has been instrumental in keeping the momentum alive.

As we look forward to the 2024 release of "Allies," Dale offers a behind-the-scenes look at the collaborative effort that has brought this project to life. With over 80 people involved and the remarkable talent of lead actor Robert Taylor Jr., the journey of "Allies" is filled with both challenges and triumphs. Dale's passion for storytelling and his unwavering pursuit of excellence shine through as we discuss his future projects. Don't miss this episode packed with inspiration, strategy, and a heartfelt thanks to Dale Harris for sharing his incredible journey with us.

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Speaker 1:

Today got a very special guest in the house with me a longtime friend, excuse me. We've been knowing each other for a couple of years. He's been working on his project and we're going to talk about that Definitely what he has been up to since then and when we're going to get a release date on this project and what it's all about. So definitely coming in joining me today. Live here on Spit to the Beat Podcast. My guest, my friend filmmaker Dale Harris how you doing, man?

Speaker 4:

Man, I'm doing great brother, Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1:

Good, good, good. Let's talk a little bit about it. We was talking, before the show came on, about your project and everything like that. First of all, let's talk about your inspiration as far as wanting to become a filmmaker and your entrepreneurship. Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 4:

It's interesting because I'm an architect by trade but, I, always say I became an architect by accident.

Speaker 4:

It's one of those things to where I never planned on becoming an architect, but it's a thing that happened. And then, once I actually got into the profession, like many people, you go to school for something you don't have really an idea what it's like and then, once you get into it, you realize, oh, maybe this is not exactly how I thought it was going to go. So from that point on it was really just. I remember just sitting back and, metaphorically, I'm just looking at like a empty whiteboard. I don't know much, but I know architecture, ain't it pretty much. So I'm like, all right, put something on the board and, you know, keeping it real. I thought at that time, but you know, no, kids, young guy, smart guy, I'm like the most logical thing that I can do is pick the most illogical thing that I can think of and then just try to do that, you know, give an honest effort towards that and and just make a decision from there. So from that point on, I was just like you know what, with all the, with all the hardships and the trials and tribulations that at college was and uh, being an emergent professional out there in the field was, uh, I was like you know what, let me go ahead and, uh, dream as big as I possibly can and just like, hey, you know what, let's be movie stars, can. It's just like, hey, you know what, let's be movie stars. I mean, that's literally just. You know how it happened. Like it wasn't.

Speaker 4:

Um, yeah, I decided to be a film producer and then the idea came second. It wasn't like I was just walking around and then like man, you don't be a good idea for a movie. It wasn't like that at all. It was like, at this point, you know, I was just so frustrated with my current circumstances and the trajectory that I was on. I realized that, like I no longer wanted to be on the path that I was on, that I just needed a bridge, I needed a vehicle, I needed something that had the potential, that was big enough to have the potential to just radically transform my situation. From that point on, I was just like, all right, what's big enough to actually transform my situation. I'm like, okay, uh, I seen easter ray blew up. I remember that. Um, and then so many other people. I said, you know what, why not let me go ahead and uh, hop into this content game?

Speaker 1:

yeah, I kind of like that, uh, what you're doing and stuff like that. So let's go into a little bit more about uh, your journey, what the process we talk about. We talked about a little early allies and how it has became, uh, your major thing. Your, your, your, your project that's in the oven, ready to come out and people ready to hear it and see it, and stuff like that. So tell us what was your challenges for bringing that project to uh, to fruition?

Speaker 4:

it's like what wasn't a challenge, it was, it was everything was a challenge. Um, you know, just like many other young filmmakers, I see young entrepreneurs out there starting out time, money, which you don't know. So you know, I'm coming from architecture and, luckily, the. The thought process of how a, a building gets to put together is similar to the thought process as how a, a film or a movie gets put together. So I just kind of use the skills that I already accumulated throughout just the working and being, you know, project manager and things like that, and I really just I jumped off the porch. I just jumped off the porch. I didn't even really think about what I didn't have or the whatever disadvantage I may have, because I'm looking back at it like the whole thing was just ridiculous yeah, even just to make it this far.

Speaker 4:

It's just like man, that really happened. So no money extra, no money. At the time when I made the decision, keeping it real, I could barely even pay my rent on time. You know what I'm saying? It was just, it was not. Nothing was going well. So it was just one of those things to where I really just tried to become a learning machine.

Speaker 1:

A learning machine, I just try to learn as much as I can so independently teaching yourself the skills and the techniques and stuff like that, uh, I guess researching youtube and all that stuff oh yeah, you know what I did.

Speaker 4:

I can say this now the statute of limitations is over. I guess, guess, maybe, but I really turned my job into a university. I turned my job.

Speaker 4:

I made pretty much a contract for myself. I said I'm not going to go to my job and not, while I'm working on whatever I'm working on, consume a podcast or a tutorial or an interview, something that wasn't, something that was going to edify me and something that was going to further. You know my journey and my progression and I said, if I'm going to go into a job and you know, build somebody else's legacy, build somebody else's. You know their business and what they got going on, then I'm going to at least do the same with me.

Speaker 4:

So that was that was. That was the first major step in anything, Cause even still, I mean, the knowledge was the main thing, Cause once you got, once I got the know-how, from that point I just, you know, hit the ground running for real.

Speaker 4:

So from that, from there, the money even wasn't even a. As the project progressed, the money became more and more effective because things cost add up quickly, but it's just one of those things to where I ended up getting a second job. Actually, I had to get a second job anyway, right? Because?

Speaker 1:

the math was not mathing.

Speaker 4:

So once I got to a point where I could have quit that job, I decided to keep working two jobs, seven days a week for pretty much like an additional four months afterwards. And all that was going to was I remember I bought a Black Friday deal with a Canon camera, I bought some terrible sound equipment that was not worth the money, that was not worth the plastic it was made with, and I just pretty much bought the basic necessities and, yeah, just hit the ground running from that point on.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, speaking of that, lyle, what's your aim behind this project? What are you trying to take it to?

Speaker 4:

Keeping it real. The aim was hey, I need a hit. It was pretty much the same Like I said it wasn't a situation where, um, I was just walking around like and then, like, I just got hit with, uh, just some revelation you know, I'm saying so, I mean the story.

Speaker 4:

What happened was, you know, I was going through my journey and then I met another um creative here in town, dre Baines, and we we ended up the allies. We did not set out to make a whole feature film link project at all. That was not the goal at all. It was just one of those things to where there was actually a film festival here in town and there was like a shorts competition. So all we really initially started to do was just a short film competition, right, and the idea for allies we came up with in six days because we didn't really have the time. We didn't have the time it was at the deadline was in like november, it's like mid-october or something it's like it's like we had to really.

Speaker 4:

So literally in six days we was able to just come up with the idea and then Dre and I had such a synergy working together that we was just like I got a high motor and I'm always with like I'm always on go, he's always on go. So it was one of those things to where we just kept playing give and go. I would be on my lunch break working on the script. Send it back to him.

Speaker 4:

He'd send it back to me by the time I get off. Then I'd send it back to him by the time I go to work in the morning. Then we're just sending it back over. Just kept molding. It's really just wandering so much that you just refine so much and you're going to make mistakes but just hide as many of the mistakes as you possibly can. And that's really what came out of necessity really.

Speaker 1:

Okay, cool. So, look, we're going to take a short break, but I want to come back and talk about your funding, how you're trying to get the project off as far as raising money and stuff like that, and I also continue to talk about the theme of allies and this detective went underground and stuff like that. So I'm going to talk a little bit about it. I'm going to let you get a spill on it. I'm not going to say anything about it, but I have watched it and enjoyed it. I'm not going to say anything about it, but I have watched it and enjoyed it. The sound, the quality is all there for anyone that's looking to eventually get to see it.

Speaker 4:

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Speaker 3:

What's up, good people? This your man Comedian A-Train and I want you to keep it locked right here on Spit to the Beat Podcast.

Speaker 1:

And we're back in Spit to the Beat Podcast. I'm your host, stacey B, unstoppable Prayer. I'm joined in the studio live. We are live on Facebook right now. We are live on YouTube. Make sure y'all go and tune in right now. We're just kicking the show off. We're just getting into some great information. But my very special guest joining me today on Spit to the Beat podcast is filmmaker, film director Dale Harris in the building with me. Baby, yeah, yes, sir. So, man, we was left off talking about you, talking about how the project coming about and stuff like that. The aim and the purpose behind this is basically to make a hit, to get a hit. So let's talk about the funding part what you got in motion to raise money, how you going about doing that.

Speaker 4:

So, yeah, so, pretty much now, we're at a critical juncture right now.

Speaker 4:

So we're actually about to release our first Kickstarter campaign, which is really remarkable when you think about it, because it's our first one, and we're pretty much almost here at the finish line. But we still need a little bit help with the, with the post-production, especially with the marketing efforts, being able to cover a lot of those costs so we can really really set the internet on fire like we know we can. So, yeah, the kickstarter is about to come up and you can uh, if you don't follow, if you follow me on social media Dale Harris Pro is my personal Instagram Allies Web Series, all Social Media Campaign you can keep up with the Kickstarter information as we get ready to release a lot more information about that in the coming weeks, and I'm pretty much working a lot behind the scenes with that. You know, my goal is a thousand emails. A thousand emails and this is not to give money for a thousand people that are open minded. That it says, you know what Something like allies is something that I can get behind.

Speaker 4:

You know, it's an independent production is made right here in Memphis, tennessee, with Memphis talent, and you know we got some of the best in the talent, the most talented people in the city. It's just like. I mean you've seen it. I mean we got a full cast and crew. We didn't spare any expense, we didn't cut any corners and it's one of those things to where I think the city of Memphis is going to be proud, you know, be proud to stand by, stand behind, because when you see it, you can see it was made with love and consideration and attention to detail it wasn't just thrown together, because it takes a lot to cut through the noise.

Speaker 4:

And one thing about Memphis is like if it ain't it, they're going to let you know, it ain't it?

Speaker 4:

Right, you know what I'm saying so, pretty much the reception has been 100% positive, 100%. So I'm super grateful for that. It's been one of those things to where you know they, they, they hit me up about every day, about hey, hey, where that like what you, what you taking so long? Yeah, oh, you know. But it's just one of those things to where you know it's got to be done right, because you know once it's out, yeah, it's out easy, you can't do anything else, you can't change it, you can't do anything.

Speaker 1:

You can't bring it back, nothing like that Retracking it or anything.

Speaker 4:

And it's not a light thing, because you know these are people like this. This is, you know this is somebody's face.

Speaker 4:

I mean, you're in it, you know what I'm saying you wouldn sign up for no nonsense, for no mess. So you know what I'm saying. So I got to do my part to make sure that everybody is presented in the best possible light. And also you know something that, like I said, can really make the city of Memphis proud. And, like you know, we see what Memphis is doing on the daily on the rap scene. Memphis is pretty much running the rap scene has been for years. So I think it's about time that on the filmmaking and movies and TV side and myself and a lot of other talented people are working to help really put or re-solidify Memphis as a cultural hub as far as the entertainment side on the movies and TV- yeah, yeah, definitely.

Speaker 1:

You touched on it. Just a little bit about the social media and stuff like that. I mean well, well, over 150,000 social media follow audience on Instagram. How has you leveraged social media to become a part of that, to help you get that money, to get the word out?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, that's been everything. That's one of the best things, that best decisions that I made, this entire process, and it really was born out of just the pandemic and the numbers are still growing. They're growing, it's crazy.

Speaker 1:

I want you to tell him. But we did get. He did call me and told me about a special person who became a follower. Go ahead. Yeah, no, just this. This just happened this morning. That's one of those things. To where who?

Speaker 4:

became a follower. Oh yes, go ahead. Yeah, no, this just happened this morning. That's one of those things to where I'm still in shock. The one the only Miss Tina Knowles the account of follow and it's just like.

Speaker 1:

Beyonce's mom For you that don't know.

Speaker 4:

It's just one of those things to where it's like we got to be doing something right and the reason why we're getting out there. I've been very, very consistent, really kind of borderline manic refreshing the page, post more content. Refresh the page, post more content. And it's just one of those things to where, if you keep playing those Cs because it wasn't like this at all it took me. I started to build a following online in the middle of the pandemic because the pandemic really did a number on allies as a production, we were halfway done with the project, halfway done. You can actually hit, play and sit back and watch the first half of the film.

Speaker 4:

And then the pandemic hit and we were kind of stranded half of the film and then the pandemic hit and we were kind of stranded and once we got to like june or july or whatever, that's when I really realized like, oh, we, we might be in this for a while. Like this, this is, this is not regular. So from that point I was just like. I was just kind of brainstorming back in my brain of like what can I do? That's productive. Yeah, that was my mindset. Like what can I do? Because I was so used to being in that mode of like go, go, go, go go, and then to be forced to be sat down. It was like I wasn't used to that. So once I got the idea of like, okay, I could start. I don't know how long this uh hiatus for this. Uh, you know this covid break is going to last, but in the meantime, however long it does last, I can start building a following, and for the first two and a half years it took two and a half years to get 100,000 followers and then it took five months for the next 50,000. So it's just one of those things where the return is compound.

Speaker 4:

So now it's at a spot where I'm not quite the rocker or anything like that, but you know, it's just one of those things to where there is an engaged audience and it is just, you know, people that have gotten into the habit of tuning into the page. That's actually one of the things I actually want to really even go deeper on once Allies is out. As far as you know, I'm kind of I'm a filmmaker, but I've been moonlighting as a blogger as well, like a part-time blogger. So I actually really want to go at like full blogger and, you know, do the whole website, the whole nine, do articles and just keep moving up that way.

Speaker 4:

It's just one of those things to where I was able to make such a following. I leveraged other people's popularity and other people's status pretty much. Whenever there was a new PowerBook trailer or Equalizer or a new Will Smith movie, I would make as much content as I possibly can about that draw people in. So now I got like the perfect Trojan horse to put my own project in and it's just about, you know, getting that awareness out, because I think, that's actually probably the.

Speaker 4:

the marketing aspect is, uh, something that cause I always came at it from um, you know, kind of like what I said alluded to earlier. For me this was always an entrepreneurial, uh endeavor Like. It was like there was no point in my life when I was ever just making films just for because, just for the love of it, just for no reason, basically. So in any endeavor, marketing is one of the most important facets. People don't know who you are. If you can't reach the people, then you pretty much you're almost dead in the water. So that was one of the things that I was super grateful for, that I was able to go to following, and now it's just like it relieves a lot of the things that I was super grateful for, that I was able to go to following, and now it's just like it. It relieves a lot of the pressure and now that we're getting I'm getting back on the trail, uh, getting my face out there and more for spreading the gospel of our lives out there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, okay. Look, I hope that you want to take another little short break and we'll come back about our lives, okay?

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Speaker 1:

Thank you for your support and we're back to Split to the Beat Podcast. I'm your host, stacy, aka Beyond Stopover Per Year, talking to my very special guest that's live in the studio with me, film director Dale Harris of Allies. He is in the building. He's dropping the information about the soon-to-be-released project coming out, hopefully in 2024. We've been waiting on this baby for a minute, so definitely I know it's going to happen and I'm super excited to have him on the show before we go in the front.

Speaker 1:

I want to take a quick little pause. We're going to come right back, uh and uh. I'm going to get into some more stuff like that before we uh start. Okay, cool.

Speaker 3:

What's up, good people? This your man Comedian A-Train and I want you to keep it locked right here on Spit to the Beat Podcast.

Speaker 1:

And we're back to Spit, to the Beat Podcast, my Stacy aka B Unstoppable Prairie. I'm your host, but in the studio with me is film director Dara Harris. Again, we left off about talking about the process, the social media and how it's built up, and everything over 150K plus and a special follower, miss Nose, beyonce Ma, who's now following you and everything like that. So tell us now what's the next step? What's the next step for allies?

Speaker 4:

next step is that get this baby out yeah get this baby out, put some people in some seats and, uh, enjoy it. So we're right now, we're in the beginning stage of this kickstarter, so that's going to really help alleviate a lot of the pressure from the post-production and the marketing expenses. So that's really the main thing and right now it's you know, it's just to even hear you say that it you know the soon to be, soon to be released allies, this feels good just to be because you know it's been, it's been a journey, it's been, it's been a 50,000 setbacks. You know nothing. You know nothing. Nothing comes easy to anybody. No matter how smart you think you are, no matter how talented you think you are, the game is going to test you.

Speaker 4:

The game is going to test you for sure. So it's just to be at this stage of the journey to where we have a product that we can be able to show people, and then we can also be able to put it on streaming and satisfy all these followers that have been hitting me up like crazy saying, hey, where are that? And um, yeah only that's a lot of, even at the, the, the actors as well. You know a lot of the actors. They want to use footage from the.

Speaker 4:

Incorporate that into the real yeah yeah, you know, be, you know post about it a show that they work into, because it's it wasn't just me, it was a lot of people. You know there's um still blows my mind. I went ahead and tallied up how many people was in the credits it was about over 80 people. Over 80 people. It's one of those things to where allies that's what I love about it. It's really one of those things to where the sum is greater than its parts. When you look at it and nothing about it looks like an like the sum is greater than its parts is is when you look at it and nothing about it looks like an independent project nothing about it looks indie or you know, man, it is, it's nice, it's good, the sound is good and, coming from me, I know what I look for in a movie.

Speaker 1:

I'm a critic of good sound and good audio, good visual and stuff like that. It's definitely touching all those bases. Like I said, people, when you want to come out and watch this, once it releases this series, it's going to be screaming, right. Yeah, absolutely, once it be screaming, you're going to enjoy every episode. You ain't going to want to get off the couch. It is that good. So, definitely, we all anticipate.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, absolutely. And the thing about it is I'm seeing RTJ. I'm going to go ahead and brag on him a little bit. The lead character, robert Taylor Jr RTJ, is super interesting. He's one of the most talented people that I know. Um, you would never guess that he was my college roommate. You know what I'm saying hey my college. Is this crazy? How? Yeah, you know, life has a funny way to just, you know, just circling back around and you know, yeah, he was my college roommate for five years.

Speaker 1:

This the gentleman played the detective.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, he plays steve, he's placed. So a little synopsis on allies in general. So allies follows the story of steve, and steve is, he's a reluctant federal agent who, you know, he, he's trying to get out the game, really and he gets convinced on taking one last case, you know, and so it's that one last one that once you get sucked in, it's just, yeah, you know, it never ends well from there. So he wants to see that's how to get right there at the beginning of the movie, the exciting incident to where he takes on that last case.

Speaker 4:

And then pretty much all hell breaks loose from that point on and he's just, you know, fighting for his life, fighting for his family, fighting to, uh, not only saw this case that he's been working on for so long, and, yeah, he's just, and but robert taylor jr who plays steve is is one of the most talented uh, not only just the most talented, and this is also something just for, you know, independent artists on the grind. Uh, he's one of the most disciplined and hard-working people because it's like at this point, like I said earlier, you know, 80 people, right, right, 80 people made it on screen. So you could imagine how many people didn't make it on screen, so I'm talking at least several hundred that I at least interacted with throughout this whole process and one of the most interesting things that I found this is a phenomenon that, especially in Memphis talent. There's no shortage of talent. There's no shortage Memphis is one of the most talented cities in america, not the most talented city in america.

Speaker 4:

In america, like just anywhere you go, somebody does music, makes beats, acts, you know, writes everything right.

Speaker 4:

But it's one of those things to where the uh, the professional development side, the, the work at the side, can the, the, the. Can you work well with others, can you show up on time, can I trust you to be prepared and optimistic, positive attitude on the set? Just one of those. And RTJ, he exemplifies that a thousand times over. So he's just made it really easy just the whole process. Because on the independent ground it's one of those things to where even on the major sets there's hurdles and challenges and unforeseen things, but on the independent side it's that times 20, it's that much more turbulence. So you really need those people to really just capitalize on, control what they can control and just not let you know opportunities slip and pass them by. And he's one of those people for sure okay, look, we're gonna come back.

Speaker 1:

Uh. One last final thing you would like to say uh, we talked about, uh, your challenges and everything in in the music, I mean in the film industry, and stuff like that. Uh, is there any one last thing you would like to say to the audience as far as how they can get in contact with you? Uh, what, uh the process of doing that?

Speaker 4:

yeah, for sure.

Speaker 4:

Uh, like I said, the project is named allies and and it's one of those things to where it's, I think it's going to be one of the biggest release. I mean, numerically already is one of the biggest releases of the year, especially on the the independent side. So I mean it was a fantastic project. If you're a fan of shows like Power Raising, canaan, ozark, law and Order, one of my favorite genres is that crime drama where it keeps you on the edge of your seat. You never know what's going to happen next. It's totally in that vein. It's totally in that vein. So is that something that Allies is going to? I think it's going to be received well.

Speaker 4:

So, yeah, like I said, allies web series on all social media platforms and DaleHarrisProtv is the official website. You can check us out. We had a trailer uploaded on YouTube. We're using the Premiere feature, so it's not actually premiered yet, but you can hit the Notify Me button. Definitely, smash the like button. Smash the like button. It does wonders for the algorithm so we can show the content to even more people, grow the audience, grow the base and it's, you know, one of those things I'm super excited to, you know. Finally, because it's you know, it's, it's been, it's been the best, last, worst, kept secret for a very long time and it's you know just to finally be at a point where it's just like it's it's about to be out and you know people talking about it and you's you know, just to finally be at a point where it's just like it's about to be out, and you know people talking about it and you see the excitement.

Speaker 4:

you know we're going to have to get dressed to the nines for a premiere here soon, like we're going to have to do something legendary for sure. I'm excited about it, man. Thank you.

Speaker 1:

Thank you Again. Thank you for coming in and watching Spit to the Beat podcast today with my very special guest film director Dale Harris. Many series that are going to be coming out very soon, hopefully in 2024. Allies, make sure you go out when information is released that you go out and check it out. I promise you you won't be disappointed. Thank you again for joining me on Spit to the Beat podcast. I'm your host, stacey B Unstoppable Puryear, and we're out. Thank you for watching Spit to the Beat podcast. Join us again next week for another live episode. Thank you.

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